Western Cherokees

SESSIONS
by Praguefrank, Jason Odd, Mario Manciotti
4 December 1951 Clifford Herring Sound Studio, 1705 W. 7th St., Fort Worth, TX - Western Cherokees (Johnny Rector [vcl], R.L. "Blackie" Crawford [rh gt/leader], Norman Stephens [ld gt], Waymak "Pee Wee" Whitewing [steel], John M. Anderson [bass], Jimmy Dennis [drums], Truet K. Lawson [fiddle], Les Bryan [piano]. Producer: Hy Grill)
001 82020 MARRIED BY THE BIBLE (DIVORCED BY THE LAW) Coral 9-64119/HBR 045
002 82021 BE MY DARLIN' ONCE MORE Coral 9-64119/HBR 045
003 82022 IF THEY EVER GET TOGETHER Coral 9-64129 /HBR 045
004 82023 I'M NOT THAT KIND Coral 9-64129 /HBR 045
4 December 1951 Clifford Herring Sound Studio, 1705 W. 7th St., Fort Worth, TX - Western Cherokees (Danny Brown [vcl], R.L. "Blackie" Crawford [rh gt/leader], Norman Stephens [ld gt], Waymak "Pee Wee" Whitewing [steel], John M. Anderson [bass], Jimmy Dennis [drums], Truet K. Lawson [fiddle], Les Bryan [piano]. Producer: Hy Grill)
005 82024 LOVE 'EM AND LET 'EM BE Coral 9-64122/HBR 045
006 82025 IF I CAN'T HAVE YOU 9-64130/HBR 045
007 82026 I'M AFRAID YOU'VE WAITED TOO LONG 9-64130/HBR 045
008 82037 I WONDER IF WE'LL ALWAYS BE APART Coral 9-64122 /HBR 045
4 December 1951 Clifford Herring Sound Studio, 1705 W. 7th St., Fort Worth, TX - Western Cherokees (R.L. "Blackie" Crawford [vcl/rh gt/leader], Norman Stephens [ld gt], Waymak "Pee Wee" Whitewing [steel], John M. Anderson [bass], Jimmy Dennis [drums], Truet K. Lawson [fiddle], Les Bryan [piano]. Producer: Hy Grill)
009 82028 BABY BUGGY BLUES Coral 9-64118/HBR 045
010 82029 HURTIN' DEEP INSIDE Coral 9-64128/HBR 045
011 82030 OLD TIMER'S WALTZ Coral 9-64118 /HBR 045
012 82031 STUPID CUPID Coral 9-64128 /HBR 045
8 January 1952 Jim Beck Studio, 1101 Ross Ave., Dallas, TX - Lefty Frizzell (Western Cherokees: Tony Hall [ld gt], Blackie Crawford [rh gt], Pee Wee Whitewing [steel],Jon Anderson [bass], poss. Jimmy Dennis [drums], Johnny Gimble [fiddle*] , Truett Lawson [fiddle]. Producer: Don Law)
000 CO 47607/JB 69/ZSP-9118 I LOVE YOU (THOUGH YOU'RE NO GOOD) Columbia unissued
000 CO 47608/JB 70/ZSP-9119 DON’T STAY AWAY (TILL LOVE GROWS COLD) 4-20911/HL 9021 CK-45067
000 CO 47609/JB 71/ZSP-9120 IT’S JUST YOU (I COULD LOVE ALWAYS) 4-20950/SS 21
000 CO 47610/JB 72/ZSP-9121 (DARLING NOW) YOU‘ RE HERE, SO EVERYTHING’S ALRIGHT 4-20911/
*According to Kevin Coffey: Gimble wasn’t sure whether the piano was Madge or Harold Carmack, but Anderson thought it was Madge.Gimble may double on mandolin. He rememberd hanging around the studio, looking for any kind of work for extra money. The Cherokees young fiddler (Lawson?) was having trouble with the tunes and Johnny offered to help out. He said Don Law was worried because of his western swing connections and that Law was "afraid" (from a commercial standpoint) of western swing fiddlers. Gimble came in, checked his "swing" tendencies in favor of straight, double-stopped leads, and Law used him often from that point until Gimble left Dallas in 1955.
4 April 1952 Jim Beck Studio, 1101 Ross Ave., Dallas, TX - Lefty Frizzell (Western Cherokees: Tony Hall [ld gt], Blackie Crawford [rh gt], Pee Wee Whitewing [steel],Jon Anderson [bass], poss. Jimmy Dennis [drums], Johnny Gimble [fiddle*] , Truett Lawson [fiddle]. Producer: Don Law)
000 CO 47788/JB 94 IF YOU CAN SPARE A DIME (I WON¢T MISS THE MONEY) 4-20950/HL 9021 SS-11
000 CO 47789/JB 95 A KING WITHOUT A QUEEN 4-21241/FC-37466
000 CO 47790/JB 96 FOREVER (AND ALWAYS) 4-20997/SS-11
000 CO 47791/JB 97 I KNOW YOU’RE LONESOME (WHILE WAITING FOR ME) 4-20997
*According to Kevin Coffey: Gimble wasn't sure whether the piano was Madge or Harold Carmack, but Anderson thought it was Madge Sutee, with Lawson out. At some point around this time, Tony Hall got ill and left the band -- he died later in the year.
3 June 1952 Clifford Herring Sound Studio, 1705 W. 7th St., Fort Worth, TX - Western Cherokees ( Johnny Rector [vcl], R.L. "Blackie" Crawford [rh gt/leader], Clarence ‘Tony’ Hall [ld gt], Pee Wee Whitewing [steel], John M. Anderson [bass], Jimmy Dennis [drums], Leon Lindsey [fiddle], Les Bryan [piano] + group vocal*. Producer: Owen Bradley)
013 82952 THERE’S A ROOM IN MY HEART Coral 9-64168/HBR 045
014 82953 HAVE YOU EVER BEEN KISSED? Coral 9-64168 /HBR 045
015 82954 ROSIE Coral 9-64150 /HBR 045
016 82955 TILL THE COWS COME HOME* Coral 9-64160/HBR 045
4 June 1952 Clifford Herring Sound Studio, 1705 W. 7th St., Fort Worth, TX - Western Cherokees ("Blackie" Crawford [vcl/rh gt/leader], Clarence ‘Tony’ Hall [ld gt], Pee Wee Whitewing [steel], John M. Anderson [bass], Jimmy Dennis [drums], Leon Lindsey [fiddle], Les Bryan [piano] + group vocal*. Producer: Owen Bradley)
017 82944 CRY, BABY, CRY Coral 9-64161/HBR 045
018 82945 WHEN YOU MAKE UP YOUR MIND, I’LL BE AROUND Coral 9-64161 /HBR 045
019 82946 FALLEN ANGELS Coral 9-64138/HBR 045
020 82947 JUMP, JACK, JUMP* Coral 9-64138 /HBR 045
4 June 1952 Clifford Herring Sound Studio, 1705 W. 7th St., Fort Worth, TX - Western Cherokees (Fanny Brown [vcl], "Blackie" Crawford [rh gt/leader], Clarence ‘Tony’ Hall [ld gt], Pee Wee Whitewing [steel], John M. Anderson [bass], Jimmy Dennis [drums], Leon Lindsey [fiddle], Les Bryan [piano]. Producer: Owen Bradley)
021 82948 WEDDING BOUQUET (I WANT YOU BACK AGAIN) Coral 9-64165/HBR 045
022 82949 I NEED SOME LOVIN‘ BAD Coral 9-64141/HBR 045
023 82950 WHAT GOOD IS MY HEART TO ME NOW Coral 9-64165 /HBR 045
024 82951 THE LAST SONG TONIGHT Coral 9-64141/HBR 045
May 1953 prob. Floyd Tillman Studio, Houston, TX - Western Cherokies (Blackie Crawford [vcl-1/ld gt], Bob Heppler [vcl-2/fiddle] + poss. Luther Nalley [rh gt], Bobby Black [steel], Buck Crawford [bass], Burney Arnett [piano]. Producer: Pappy Daily)
024 ACA 2563 MARIUCH -1 Starday 45-102
025 ACA 2564 CHEROKEE STEEL GUITAR -instr.- 45-102
026 ACA 2565 IF YOU DON’T LIKE IT -2 45-103
027 ACA 2566 IF YOU DON’T MIND -2 45-103
May 1953 Floyd Tillman Studio, Houston, TX - Arlie Duff (Blackie Crawford [ld gt], Luther Nalley [rh gt], Bobby Black [steel], Buck Crawford [bass], Bob Heppler [fiddle], Burney Arnett [piano-1] + The Western Cherokees [vcl chorus -2]. Producer: Pappy Daily)
000 ACA 2567/A-16767/YW-15020 YOU ALL COME -2 Starday 45-104 /v.a. SLP8-117 SLP-123 SRS-67016 GT-0021 SDLP-820 HBR-47 [ed.] Dixie EP-512
000 ACA 2568/A-16768 POOR OLE TEACHER 45-104 / HBR-47
000 ACA 2569/A-16769 PLEASE WAIT IN HEAVEN unissued
ca June 1953 prob. Floyd Tillman Studio, Houston, TX - Western Cherokies (Blackie Crawford [vcl*/ld gt], Luther Nalley [rh gt], Bobby Black [steel], Buck Crawford [bass], Bob Heppler [fiddle], Burney Arnett [piano]. Producer: Pappy Daily)
028 ACA 2574 HUCKLEBERRY PIE* 45-105
029 ACA 2575 HOT CHECK BABY 45-105
July 1953 Floyd Tillman Studio, Houston, TX - Bob Heppler [vcl/fiddle] & Western Cherokees (Blackie Crawford [ld gt], Luther Nalley [rh gt], Bobby Black [steel], Buck Crawford [bass], Burney Arnett [piano]. Producer: Pappy Daily)
030 ACA 2621 HANDLE WITH CARE 45-107
031 ACA 2622 ONE STEP AHEAD 45-107
July 1953 Floyd Tillman Studio, Houston, TX - Arlie Duff, *& Lois Duff (Blackie Crawford [ld gt], Luther Nalley [rh gt], Bobby Black [steel], Buck Crawford [bass], Bob Heppler [fiddle]. Producer: Pappy Daily)
000 ACA 2625 A MILLION TEARS* 45-106
000 ACA 2626 STUCK-IN-A-MUD HOLE 45-106
ca. October 1953 prob. Houston, TX - Western Cherokies (Blackie Crawford [*vcl], Luther Nalley [rh gt], Bobby Black [steel], Buck Crawford [bass], Bob Heppler [fiddle])
032 SRS 2007 STOP BOOGIE WOOGIE* 45-116
033 SRS 2008 unknown title
034 SRS 2009 LEFT OVER LOVE 45-116
ca. January 1954 prob. Jack Starnes home studio, Voth Road, Beaumont, TX - Western Cherokees (Fred Crawford [vcl-*], Jimmie Walton [vcl-+], Blackie Crawford [ld gt], Luther Nalley [rh gt], Buck Crawford [bass], Bob Heppler [fiddle], Burney Annett [piano]. Producer: Pappy Daily)
035 ST-2049 POPCORN 45-126
036 ST-2050 TIME WILL TAKE YOU OFF MY MIND* 45-124
037 ST-2051 EMPTY FEELING IN MY HEART* 45-124
038 ST-2052 I’LL LIVE THAT NAME+ 45-144
039 ST-2053 HIGH AS A GEORGIA PINE+ 45-125
040 ST-2054 WHAT WILL THE FUTURE BRING+ 45-144
041 ST-2055 BABY YOU’RE THE ONE+ 45-125
042 ST-2056 IF THEY TELL YOU* 45-126
ca. January 1954 Jack Starnes home studio, Voth Road, Beaumont, TX - Arlie Duff Trio (Arlie Duff, Lois Duff, Dolpus Duff + Blackie Crawford [ld gt], Luther Nalley [rh gt], Buck Crawford [bass], Bob Heppler [fiddle], Burney Annett [piano]. Producer: Pappy Daily)
000 ST-2057 WHEN THE SAINTS GO MARCHING IN 45-127
000 ST-2058 COUNTRY SINGING (ALONGSIDE THE ROAD) 45-127
ca. March 1954 Jack Starnes home studio, Voth Road, Beaumont, TX - Arlie Duff Trio (Blackie Crawford [ld gt], Luther Nalley [rh gt], Corlue Bordelon [steel], Buck Crawford [bass], Bob Heppler [fiddle], Red Hayes [fiddle] + Western Cherokees [vocal chorus]. Producer: Pappy Daily)
000 ST-2083 LET ME BE YOUR SALTY DOG 45-132
000 ST-2084 BACK TO THE COUNTRY 45-132
15 March 1955 Gold Star Recording Studio, 5628 Brock St., Houston, TX - Roy Drusky & Western Cherokees (Producer: Jack Starns)
000 ST-2270 MUMBLIN‘ TO MYSELF 45-185
000 ST-2271 SUCH A FOOL 45-185/va SLP9-190

ALBUMS
Hillbilly Researcher [UK] HBR CD 045 The Western Cherokees: [Danny Brown:] Love'm And Let'm Be; If I Can't Have You; I'm Afraid You've Waited Too Long; I Wonder If We'll Always Be Apart; Wedding Bouquet, I Want You Back Again; I Need Some Loving Bad; What Good Is My Heart To Me Now; The Last Song Tonight. [The Western Cherokees:] Breakin' The Steel; [Blackie Crawford:] Baby Buggy Blues; Hurtin' Deep Inside; Old Timers Waltz; Stupid Cupid; Cry, Baby, Cry; When You Make Up Your Mind, I'll Be Around; Fallen Angels; Jump, Jack, Jump; [The Western Cherokees:] Tinkle Fingers; [Johnny Rector:] Married By The Bible (Divorced By The Law); Be My Darling Once More; If They Ever Get Together; I'm Not That Kind; There's Room In My Heart; Have You Ever Been Kissed; Rosie; Til The Cows Come Home – ca 04

SINGLES
Coral (1951-1952)
9-64118 Baby Buggy Blues / Old Timer's Waltz - 52 Blackie Crawford & The Western Cherokees 9-64119 Married By The Bible (Divorced By The Law) / Be My Darlin' Once - 52 Johnny Rector & The Western Cherokees
9-64122 Love 'Em And Let 'Em Be / I Wonder If We'll Always Be Apart - 52 Danny Brown & The Western Cherokees
9-64128 Hurtin' Deep Inside / Stupid Cupid - 52 Blackie Crawford & The Western Cherokees
9-64129 If They Ever Get Together / I'm Not That Kind - 52 Johnny Rector & The Western Cherokees
9-64130 If I Can’t Have You / I’m Afraid You’ve Waited Too Long - 52 Danny Brown
9-64138 Fallen Angels / Jump, Jack, Jump - 52 Blackie Crawford & The Western Cherokees
9-64141 (I Want You Back Again) I Need Some Lovin' Bad / The Last Song Tonight - 52 Danny Brown & The Western Cherokees
9-64160 Rosie / Till The Cows Come Home - 53
9-64161 Cry Baby Cry / When You Make Up Your Mind I'll Be Around - 53 Blackie Crawford & The Western Cherokees
9-64165 Wedding Bouquet / What Good Is My Heart To Me Now - 53 Danny Brown & The Western Cherokees
9-64168 There’s A Room In My Heart / Have You Ever Been Kisses - 53 Johnny Rector & The Western Cherokees
Starday (1953-55)
45-102 Mariuch / Cherokee Steel Guitar - 07-53 Blackie Crawford
45-103 If You Don't Mind / I Don't Like It - 07-53 Bob Heppler
45-105 Huckleberry Pie / Hat Check Baby - 53 Blackie Crawford
45-107 Handle With Care / One Step Ahead - 53 Bob Heppler
45-116 Stop Boogie Woogie / Left Over Love - 11-53 Blackie Crawford
45-126 [Blackie Crawford:]If They Tell You / [Western Cherokees:] Popcorn - 02-1954
45-243 Rock Candy Rock / Secret Of My Heart - 05-56 (rev, June 2, 1956)